Comments on: Logo Raiding http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/index.php/logo-raiding/ The Art & Business of Logo Design Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:38:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Steve Douglas http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/index.php/logo-raiding/comment-page-1/#comment-197180 Steve Douglas Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:36:52 +0000 http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/?p=7815#comment-197180 @ Matt - Thanks for the comment. Bang on too. @ Matt – Thanks for the comment. Bang on too.

]]> By: Matt Beischel http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/index.php/logo-raiding/comment-page-1/#comment-197179 Matt Beischel Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:05:36 +0000 http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/?p=7815#comment-197179 Designers deserve credit for their original work. All artists should watermark everything that they put online for this exact reason. Watermarks can always be removed, but a drive-by content thief isn't generally the sort to put forth that kind of effort. Path of least resistance and all that. "Top 10 so-and-so" and "Inspirational this-and-that" blog posts always reek of SEO content aggregation or a looming deadline for a blogger with writer's block. Search engine results are completely bogged down with this kind of junk. Less frequent original content is much more intellectually valuable than a daily dose of stripped content, but a search engine spider can't tell the difference. Quantity almost always wins out over quality when looking at any automated evaluative system. Designers deserve credit for their original work. All artists should watermark everything that they put online for this exact reason. Watermarks can always be removed, but a drive-by content thief isn’t generally the sort to put forth that kind of effort. Path of least resistance and all that. “Top 10 so-and-so” and “Inspirational this-and-that” blog posts always reek of SEO content aggregation or a looming deadline for a blogger with writer’s block. Search engine results are completely bogged down with this kind of junk. Less frequent original content is much more intellectually valuable than a daily dose of stripped content, but a search engine spider can’t tell the difference. Quantity almost always wins out over quality when looking at any automated evaluative system.

]]> By: Steve Douglas http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/index.php/logo-raiding/comment-page-1/#comment-196122 Steve Douglas Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:18:54 +0000 http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/?p=7815#comment-196122 @ Blue, Joshua and Bojan Thanks for your comments. Glad you like the piece. @ Blue, Joshua and Bojan Thanks for your comments. Glad you like the piece.

]]> By: Steve Douglas http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/index.php/logo-raiding/comment-page-1/#comment-196121 Steve Douglas Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:17:34 +0000 http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/?p=7815#comment-196121 @ Duane Thanks for dropping by. Alas, you're right. These kinds of posts do work (though they often don't have any real legs in terms of readership). People tend to move them around social media platforms like Twitter (in a constant search for more content to 'tweet') pretty fast. Trouble is, these posts are designed to be 'quick and dirty' and crediting the designer is both counter-productive (sending link love outside the host site) and time consuming. Most of the sites that are indulging in this have large databases of designs they've saved from various galleries. They're organized by category (restaurants, sports, etc) for quick access. Keeping track of who designed what is a little more difficult than organizing image file folders. @ Duane Thanks for dropping by. Alas, you’re right. These kinds of posts do work (though they often don’t have any real legs in terms of readership). People tend to move them around social media platforms like Twitter (in a constant search for more content to ‘tweet’) pretty fast. Trouble is, these posts are designed to be ‘quick and dirty’ and crediting the designer is both counter-productive (sending link love outside the host site) and time consuming. Most of the sites that are indulging in this have large databases of designs they’ve saved from various galleries. They’re organized by category (restaurants, sports, etc) for quick access. Keeping track of who designed what is a little more difficult than organizing image file folders.

]]> By: Steve Douglas http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/index.php/logo-raiding/comment-page-1/#comment-196120 Steve Douglas Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:12:38 +0000 http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/?p=7815#comment-196120 @ Leighton Thanks for the comment. What I've found is this 'best of' posts get a lot of heat (from Twitter retweets and what not) but they don't have any real legs (they don't get linked to in other blog posts or mentioned in other articles). Their benefit is fleeting. Original material may not get as much 'quick' action, but they have much more longevity in terms of readers and mentions. It's a bit of a pain to come up with original material on a regular basis (I've been tempted to throw together a 'best list' post on numerous occasions, but like you, always resisted). I'm a regular reader of your blog and it features content that's your own, and that's much more interesting than the regurgitated work of others. @ Leighton Thanks for the comment. What I’ve found is this ‘best of’ posts get a lot of heat (from Twitter retweets and what not) but they don’t have any real legs (they don’t get linked to in other blog posts or mentioned in other articles). Their benefit is fleeting. Original material may not get as much ‘quick’ action, but they have much more longevity in terms of readers and mentions. It’s a bit of a pain to come up with original material on a regular basis (I’ve been tempted to throw together a ‘best list’ post on numerous occasions, but like you, always resisted). I’m a regular reader of your blog and it features content that’s your own, and that’s much more interesting than the regurgitated work of others.

]]> By: Steve Douglas http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/index.php/logo-raiding/comment-page-1/#comment-196119 Steve Douglas Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:07:19 +0000 http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/?p=7815#comment-196119 @Leon Glad you like. It's a pretty apt phrase for what's going on I think. Blog posts that showcase good logo work are great, but it's the intent of the post that's driving this issue. As the posts are for SEO penetration and rankings for particular keywords, it would be counter productive to feature credits or links (why spend all the effort to get people to a page, and then invite them to leave, to a potential 'competitor')? I'm all for promotion and marketing, and if these posts would credit designers, and toss a little link love their way, it would be beneficial to all. Trouble is, most of these logo raider posts are purely for the benefit of the publishing blog. Speaking up is great. @Leon Glad you like. It’s a pretty apt phrase for what’s going on I think. Blog posts that showcase good logo work are great, but it’s the intent of the post that’s driving this issue. As the posts are for SEO penetration and rankings for particular keywords, it would be counter productive to feature credits or links (why spend all the effort to get people to a page, and then invite them to leave, to a potential ‘competitor’)? I’m all for promotion and marketing, and if these posts would credit designers, and toss a little link love their way, it would be beneficial to all. Trouble is, most of these logo raider posts are purely for the benefit of the publishing blog. Speaking up is great.

]]> By: Steve Douglas http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/index.php/logo-raiding/comment-page-1/#comment-196118 Steve Douglas Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:01:52 +0000 http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/?p=7815#comment-196118 @MD Not necessarily from spec, contest or 'crowdsourcing' sites (though if we poked around, I'm sure we could find examples of that too). Most of the material we're talking about is taken from logo 'gallery' sites like Logo Pond, Brandstack, <em>et al</em>. @MD Not necessarily from spec, contest or ‘crowdsourcing’ sites (though if we poked around, I’m sure we could find examples of that too). Most of the material we’re talking about is taken from logo ‘gallery’ sites like Logo Pond, Brandstack, et al.

]]> By: Blue Cuevas http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/index.php/logo-raiding/comment-page-1/#comment-196112 Blue Cuevas Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:15:35 +0000 http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/?p=7815#comment-196112 Wow! I have been seeing a lot of these lately, a number have included my designs with no credit. Hmmmm... sounds fishy. I remember seeing a series where hundreds of designs were used without any credit to the designers. Here are a couple of link, you might even find yours somewhere there: http://abduzeedo.com/logo-design-z-xyz-combo They credited the galleries where they took them but not the specific designers. That doesn't really benefit the designers but just the authors. This is awful... Wow! I have been seeing a lot of these lately, a number have included my designs with no credit. Hmmmm… sounds fishy. I remember seeing a series where hundreds of designs were used without any credit to the designers.

Here are a couple of link, you might even find yours somewhere there:

http://abduzeedo.com/logo-design-z-xyz-combo

They credited the galleries where they took them but not the specific designers. That doesn’t really benefit the designers but just the authors.

This is awful…

]]> By: Media Designer http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/index.php/logo-raiding/comment-page-1/#comment-196110 Media Designer Tue, 13 Apr 2010 01:01:47 +0000 http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/?p=7815#comment-196110 If I'm reading this right, does this mean that these collections are from crowdsource websites, where unpaid, spec submissions for projects are displayed for all and sundry to view, rip of and redistribute? If I’m reading this right, does this mean that these collections are from crowdsource websites, where unpaid, spec submissions for projects are displayed for all and sundry to view, rip of and redistribute?

]]> By: Joshua Geiger - 1981 http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/index.php/logo-raiding/comment-page-1/#comment-196109 Joshua Geiger - 1981 Mon, 12 Apr 2010 23:28:18 +0000 http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/?p=7815#comment-196109 I totally agree on this post and with Leighton. Although I do visit these posts, it's mostly to see if my work in included. Most of the time, when it is, there is no mention of me or my website and I will comment with all my info so that I can lay claim to the work, and SEO that is gained from the *free* use of my labor. I will say that it does feel nice to see your work included in these posts because it would mean that the author liked your work, but I'm starting to think that these posts are also blind copies of each-other too. Meaning, I rarely see different work in different posts. It would appear as though these authors are just taking what someone else deemed as "good" and ran with it instead of picking out their own favorites. This leads me to believe that these people are even lazier than originally expected. Anyway, just my two cents. I totally agree on this post and with Leighton. Although I do visit these posts, it’s mostly to see if my work in included. Most of the time, when it is, there is no mention of me or my website and I will comment with all my info so that I can lay claim to the work, and SEO that is gained from the *free* use of my labor. I will say that it does feel nice to see your work included in these posts because it would mean that the author liked your work, but I’m starting to think that these posts are also blind copies of each-other too. Meaning, I rarely see different work in different posts. It would appear as though these authors are just taking what someone else deemed as “good” and ran with it instead of picking out their own favorites. This leads me to believe that these people are even lazier than originally expected. Anyway, just my two cents.

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