
Back in October, we tinkered around with redesigning The Logo Factory logo (see Battle of The Logos for more). We were originally thinking about a complete overhaul: a new factory ‘house’, typography, color scheme – the works. Trouble is, and as much as I’d like to change The Logo Factory ‘house’, it’s not really practical. It’s part of our trademark registrations. It’s all over the internet. It’s been turned into a rotatable 3D version that we’ve been using on various websites for a couple of years. Since we started using it in 1995 – first as my personal ‘logo factory’ icon, and then as our corporate mark – the little house has been a part of The Logo Factory story from day one (paradoxically, the reason I want to change it is also the reason I can’t). Alas, for better or for worse, we’re stuck with it and any rework will have to be built around our ubiquitous house.

That’s not to say we can’t tinker with the treatment a little bit. Over the years, artwork for the house has become increasingly inconsistent. We used to have the strapline ‘Media Works’ but that was removed (not entirely sure why). We re-sized the logo a few years ago in illustrator, somebody forgot to constrain the scaling and, for a while, some of our style sheets and asset files consisted of skinny, anorexic houses. The logo boxes have changed several times (strangely, one version saw crates floating off into space). While the original version of The Logo Factory house was purple and teal, we lost the colors at some point. There was a reason for that at the time – the original PANTONE colors weren’t web safe (something that mattered back in modem times) and darker purples didn’t translate well on many monitors. The line weight of the artwork wasn’t consistent (a result of my illustrator background, I suppose) but a little rough around the edges for a logo. The lines weren’t hefty enough, something which had caused reproduction issues when the logo was reduced (you can notice this most on our Twitter profile icon). There were some line quality issues with the smokestacks (above left) that had been annoying me for years. If we are going to keep the house, we could at least give it a decent face lift and bring the old girl into the 21st century.

Having a go at the original vector artwork, I tweaked the old house (above left) into a more solid and linear version (above right). Nothing terribly drastic, In fact, the changes are such that most wouldn’t recognize the difference unless it was pointed out and the two versions sat side-by-each. I also spent a little time making sure that the artwork files were set up correctly in Illustrator, (below) – something which many designers neglect to do, and something that I neglected when I first created the graphic almost fifteen years ago. It’s one thing to have a logo that looks cool on on a monitor. It’s another thing to have logo files that are ready for any application (I’ve always found vinyl die-cutting to be a litmus test of any logo setup).

Once we had a decent version of our Logo Factory house – technically sound and a little more versatile than its predecessor – it was time to tackle the rest of the logo, the typography that makes up our corporate name. We were pretty well hog-tied in the design of the house, but could be a little more flexible with the accompanying text. Don’t get me wrong – changing the font portion of our logo was no less difficult a choice to make. It too has been with us for a long time. It’s gone under some minor tweaks over the years – we added a .com to one version – but otherwise The Logo Factory in Loveletter font has been with us since early 1995. Trouble is, because the house had to stay, any new corporate ‘message’ had to be defined by the typography, while the fonts had to gel visually with the icon.

Someone in the Battle of The Logos comment section referred to the original typewriter font as a ‘battered 90’s font’ and they certainly have a point. Using stressed letters back in the mid-nineties was kinda edgy (people were still enamored with pristine type found in desktop publishing software and old-fashioned typewriter fonts bordered on heresy). Before I started playing around, I needed to figure out exactly what I wanted the logo to “say”. I wanted to emphasize what makes us different from the increasing number of online logo design companies playing their trade on the internet. First and foremost, we’re a real studio. Sure, we use the internet to market ourselves, but in many ways we’re decidedly low-tech. Strictly speaking, we don’t feature an automated platform or other internet gimmicks and a high-tech ‘look and feel’ might run counter to our “message” and our studio “personality”.

When you get right down to it, we’re pretty old school, a theme that’s probably worth building into the design. We still feature one-on-one interaction between an in-house designer and our clients, whether through long distance phone calls or e-mail. We also have a lot of drop-in clients- local businesses who may, or may not, have found us on the internet. I wanted a logo that spoke to hand-built design and craftsmanship (yes, I realize our name – The Logo ‘Factory’ – runs contrary to that notion, but we’re stuck with it too). Keeping all of this in mind, and If we were to pick a commercial font (something which I’ve never been opposed to, especially when our company name is 14 characters long) it had to be a little old-fashioned. Verging on retro even. I’ve always been a fan of Letterhead Fonts and their Boston Truckstyle hit the right note (above).
The trouble with the phrase “The Logo Factory” is that it’s extremely long and doesn’t work well as a horizontal design. We have to stack the words on top of each other, but that represents a visual issue that can be unpleasant. An almost perfect visual pyramid. In the word “logo” the spacing between the L & O in ‘log’ is problematic, but the ‘L’ in the Boston Truckstyle font set features a nice ornate tail that alleviates most of the issue. Looks nice too. Trouble is, there’s absolutely no way to stack this font combination without making the word ‘factory’ completely illegible.

Nuts. Using one font for all three words in our name wasn’t going to work. Had to ditch the ornate treatment of ‘Logo’ and bring in another style, keeping this in mind: any more than three fonts and your logo looks like a ransom note. After tinkering around with a few sets, I settled on Outlaw Regular, again from Letterhead Fonts, a condensed, slightly ornate letterform (which alleviated the L + O spacing issue) and worked pretty well visually with ‘The’ and ‘Factory’. The word Factory is much longer than The & Logo, so I arced it slightly to reduce the width. I wanted to balance things out a little, and the addition of a couple of stars accomplished that while adding a nifty retro feel. Hey, we’re almost there.

When pulling apart our old logo, it dawned on me that it didn’t actually say what we did. I usually think straplines are a little goofy, but I need to remember that we’re marketing to a retail audience. Maybe it was time to finally add a sub title that described what The Logo Factory actually is. I tired to be clever and tinkered around with various combinations “your logo hand-built” (a little vague and suggested some form of logo sculpture), custom logos” (redundant – they should all be custom) until finally settling on dead simple – “Design Studios”. While short on clever, it was long on explanation and addressed some of the primary goals of this mission – differentiating ourselves from the thousands of logo design companies dotting the web. I guess one of our main strengths is our experience. We’ve been around since 1996 (a lifetime in internet years) and in this era of fly-by-night logo companies setting up shop every two seconds, it’s probably something worth adding to the mix. Keeping with the old-fashioned theme, I added an “Est. 1996″ to the bottom of the text workup and reversed it out of a solid oval. As an added bonus, this oval anchored the design nicely, counteracting any visual weirdness caused by the ‘factory’ arc. Now we’re getting somewhere. Let’s join up the type with the house, and see what we have. Unlike previous versions, I put the house on the right – I could tuck the house quite tightly to the text, while the overlap of the roof on the word ‘logo’ didn’t represent too much visual complexity. It also would help alleviate spacing issues that have cropped up when our current logo is used on the right side of a web header.

When I shopped the new logo around the office, it received a fairly positive response. The one suggestion was that ‘The’ was too large and overpowered the design, so I scaled it back a bit. Gotta be careful here – it’s extremely important that the word ‘The’ is part of any TLF logo because 1) THE Logo Factory is our legal name and 2) thelogofactory.com is our website. We don’t own logofactory.com (in a case of inspired stupidity I had that domain, but let it expire years ago to save the $35, and it was quickly snapped up by some embroidery outfit in Florida. They later wanted to sell it to me for an amount in the six figures). In order to downplay the size, while still making the word noticeable I placed it inside a solid background oval. That didn’t work, so I added a cog (hey, it’s a factory) but realized that half a cog looks suspiciously like a sunset, particularly when reduced.

Though I really should know better, I thought color might help tone down the sunset vibe (it didn’t) so I removed the background and scaled ‘The’ to a more appropriate size. I liked the idea of a cog (to help balance the wild-west look) and the letter ‘O’ in Factory seemed like a perfect spot to drop one in. Yep, it’s there. Look again. Funny thing too – in creating this logo, I developed a way to create a really accurate cog in about 20 seconds. Think I’ll do a little illustrator tut about it later.

It’s always advisable that if you’re going to use a complicated icon in your logo, you also have a stand alone font version (above left). We’ve always had a library of different TLF logo variants that can be utilized for specific applications, resolutions and aspect ratios (though we haven’t been as consistent as we should). Makes managing your brand assets a little bit of a chore but the versatility is always worth it in the end (asset management is not something that we’ve been particularly good at – that’s why there are so many different versions of our logo lying around and why we need to standardize everything now), I also like the fact that the font version has a square logo footprint – many social media websites feature square avatars, and it’s nice to use a version of your logo that hasn’t been cropped.
Another litmus test of a logo is how it appears on colored or black backgrounds. Many logos, especially illustrative ones, can’t simply be reversed (ie: white turned into black – that’s a negative image, similar to old black and white film’) and often, entirely new artwork has to be created. Thanks to a white keyline already built into the house (hey, I had insider knowledge), this isn’t an issue here. Is it me, or does this version look like it belongs on a Jack Daniels bottle?

What about color you say? Well, the logo is designed primarily to work in one color (as mentioned earlier, we lost the purple and teal combination years ago) but we might want to spice things up once in a while. Luckily enough, it’s not really an issue. We can even add a little blend to liven things up (color here is for visual only. It’s hideous. I know).

The thing I like about this particular font workup is that it’s versatile enough to be used as sub-brands for various offshoot projects. Think podcasts and videos (below). The built-in strapline can become the project title, while the number of a sequential item can be dropped in, as shown below. If we go with this design, we might just have the makings of a fairly robust branding tool.

If the resolution permits, I’ve also set up a version with a web address banner. Back of T-shirts, coffee mugs and anytime the logo’s large enough to warrant it. A little busy I suppose, but just enough of a carnival vibe that accurately describes what goes on at The Logo Factory on a daily basis. I set that version up as a compound object so the color can be easily changed, and the logo is bang-on technically for screenprinting, vinyl stickers and other one-color uses.

This compound version can also be used as a watermark on various backgrounds. This example isn’t particularly good – I just grabbed a screenshot of our Twitter profile background to give you an idea.

And there you have it. A proposed new ‘look’ for The Logo Factory with all the various versions and permutations, the rationale for the the change and the thinking behind the setup. Using this new version will require a complete ‘look and feel’ overhaul of anything that features our logo (which is sort of okay, we’ve a new site in planning stages now). It’s enough of a departure to be ‘new’, while still maintaining enough of the original TLF ‘flavor’ to be recognizable and integrated into our marketing material without too much fuss. It’s quite possible for both logos to exist in the same universe. One thing though – when I uploaded the images for this post, I did notice that the strapline tends to fill in, so we’re either going to remove it for some web uses, or hand edit the images when used very small (a hassle I know, but at 72 dpi, sometimes a necessity).

So what do you think? Cool? Crap? Worth while changing? I’m not entirely sold on it myself, especially after going back and reviewing our current logo thinking “hey, that’s not too bad”. The gang at the shop like it. My daughter doesn’t (she was horrified that I even considered changing the logo at all and pleaded me not to go on). The Mrs. told me she liked it, but I think I detected a vague sense of “meh”. Overall, I think we’re due a change and believe that the new logo is a slight improvement over what we’ve been using, especially when it comes to marketing our studio in a retail environment. Just enough Kitsch to rep our company vibe, but not too goofy as to be off-putting. I’d love to hear what you think – feel free to comment but please be kind. I know it doesn’t look like it, but the above represents about three very frustrating days of my life.
Update: After playing around with the logo in various formats and resolutions, I noticed a couple of minor issues. When used smallish, all the subtexts were leaning towards filling in. The Outlaw Regular font features little pointy flourishes half-way down each letter (see below), which are really nice when the fonts are large, but tend to gum up when smaller. They didn’t add anything to the design, so I took the points out by hand-editing the vector version in Illustrator. With the pointy things gone, I had to adjust the kerning slightly.

Another thing that was starting to piss me off was the swoopy flourish in ‘The’. Oh, I like the idea, but it seemed to be pinching the letters ‘H’ and ‘E’, especially when displayed at a small size. Another quick edit, pushing the top half of the ‘T’ north, gave us a little more breathing room.

I also tidied up some of the other kerning and spacing, centering objects visually rather than automatically through Illustrator’s align function. I’ve added the updated version below. You can view a full-size version of the design here.

Despite the tweaks and edits, you might think there’s much obvious difference between the two. You might think me a little barmy for the obsessive pixel pushing and you might be right. But here’s the deal. Any logo that features things that aren’t quite ’so’ will slowly drive a designer mad. Think of tin-foil stuck in a tooth cavity and you’ll understand a little of the potential anguish. If we use this logo, there will eventually be something that I hate about it. And every time I look at it, I’ll ask myself “why didn’t I see that?”. It’s the nature of the beast, so best to get a handle on as many of these visual gremlins before it leaves this blog post.
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Damm I wish i were that creative and talented; you make it look sooo easy. Great blog, thanks for the tutorials.
I think the small improvements to the house are a big improvement – that part looks great.
I also think the new typeface choices look pretty good, though I kind of wish the typeface for logo was a little softer and not so angular, especially next to the really graceful, swoopy Boston Truckstyle. I dunno… My initial reaction is that I like the font choices but a I look longer and harder they start to bug me a bit. Overall, I do like the feel of the text and the way you’ve set it up. Definitely an improvement over Loveletter.
The area I’m mainly having problems with is that the style of the house just seems to clash with the style of the wordmark. The house is so angular and full of straight lines – kind of retro industrial, and then my eye is drawn to the flourishes in The and Factory which has a completely different retro kind of feel to it, and it just doesn’t feel like it comes together.
Much as I really love the Boston Truckstop font, I think it’s what’s causing me the most issues, and swapping it out for something a little more consistent with the feel of the house might be what this needs. Overall the concept is really good, and I think you’ve almost nailed it. It’s just not *quite* right as it is.
Thank you for sharing your creative process on this. Designing your own logo is probably one of the hardest design tasks – I’ve been struggling with one of my own for a while now, yet I have no problem working on anyone else’s.
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@ Chris – thanks. Making it ‘look’ easy is one thing but I must admit, designing or reworking one’s own logo is a nightmare.
@ Anlina – thanks so much for your comment. I know my daughter agrees with you. After reading your message she was stomping her feet in the kitchen saying “That’s what I say!” LOL. You’re right about designing our own logos. We get sick of the design long before it hits print, and rather than accepting the logo and moving on, we tend to fuss over the smallest details. Like you, I’m not entirely sure it’s “quite right”. though we’ve been kicking around a rework for almost a year, and we’re probably closer to a workable version than we’ve been. It’s certainly the first version that I was comfortable enough to discuss out in the open. You make some appreciated points and I’ll certainly factor them in when it comes to a final decision.
Thanks for the post man. I learn new things here. Honestly re design logo is not my kind of job, I find it so very difficult. I love to do things from scratch specially on designing a logo.
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Thank you for sharing the process. It sure sounds familiar!
I have to say I mostly agree with Anlina. Thickening and cleaning up the linework was a really good idea, and I like the new wordmark.
However, while the wordmark is now up-to-date, the house itself isn’t. The pointy triangular shapes, particularly on the roof, the doorknob (I realize that one’s not quite triangular, but it resolves as such to the eye) and the crates, remind me of 90s “woodcut”-style clipart — it makes the logo look dated and tired.
The “energetic woodcut” style also doesn’t really seem to fit with the house itself, which has more of a jaunty, industrial feel. What happens when the roof triangles are gone? I’d like to see what happens; maybe that’s all it needs. I also think the windows have a bit too much variation. Keeping them random, yet not quite *so* random, might be something to consider.
I guess the house just reads as too “busy” to me, still, is the gist of these meanderings.
I totally identify with getting sick of a design long before it’s wrapped up. I’m sorry to be possibly creating more work for you! Like Anlina said, I may have trouble with my own work, but seem to have little problem analyzing someone else’s.
I think it is a vast improvement. I really don’t care for the Loveletter font in the original logo. It’s hard on the eye and doesn’t really mesh well with the crisp strokes in the house. I love the Boston Truckstyle font and I think it works really well. You definitely hit it on the nail when you mentioned a ‘carnival’ look. I would love to see it tweeked a bit so it loses some of the Wild West look and goes more in the carnival/fun house direction. It seems a little busy with the star, cog, and banner. Overall though it’s a really great piece and a great improvement on the original.
P.S. I love your blog!
@ Amy – Thanks for joining the discussion. Alas, there’s not much else we can do with the house without having to re-do trademarks and what have you. I’m still torn on whether that’s a good thing or not. While your points certainly are valid, there’s some practical considerations that prevent me from implementing them.
@ Darlene – Glad you like the blog. Even more glad that you like the logo. On reading your comment, it made me realize one thing. While I think the stars are a cool addition to the word mark, when the house sits on top of the star on the right, the left star has absolutely no rhyme or reason. becoming a completely random element. I missed that. Being close to the design, I KNOW that the right handed star is BEHIND the house. First time viewers never would.
Another valuable lesson on failing to see the forest for the trees I guess. I have two choices – lose the stars on ALL versions (for consistency) or move the house a hair to the right and let the right-hand star peek out. Like so…
You can view a larger version of this image here. I’m leaning towards gassing the stars. Unlike every other component of the logo, the stars don’t serve a purpose. They don’t ‘mean’ anything. Removing them tones down some of the busyness and gives the word mark version a square logo footprint. That makes it very adaptable for visual eye-candy, things like this cog ‘bug’. I dig this – opens up all sorts of possibilities.
I think we’re close. Very, very close.
Close, indeed.
It definitely works better without the stars. I tend to be a very minimalist designer. Maybe that’s because I used to have a teacher that always told the class,”keep it simple stupid.” Quite crass and not very professional, but it got the point across.
I also dig the logo in the cog. It’s quite attractive. Good work.
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Think i’m settling on the version above (sans stars). Threw together some very rough ideas on how the logo(s) would work on a business card. Realize that I’m asking for a world of hurt with a dieline, and the cog shape may interfere with the practical aspects of a business card, but I think this layout is unique enough to contemplate. We’ve gone back to the old purple (habits never die I guess) and changed our traditional body typeface (I’ve always loved Fruitiger – one of my all-time faves) to Myriad Pro Condensed. Not too shabby methinks. One of the problems we always had at the shop was the creation of personalized business cards for everybody. Some designers give ‘em out like candy at Halloween while others only send cards along with artwork CD packages to their clients. End of the day – we always ended up with boxes of unused cards for some staff, while others always needed more printed. Lots of headaches, logistics and expense. In this layout, rather than personalize cards, I’ve left a blank comment on the back where staff can write in their names or any other comments they’d like to pass on. In keeping with our ‘old school’ theme, also adds a nice personal touch.
This layout even won over my daughter, one of my fiercest critics and someone who thought the rework idea was nothing short of madness. You can see a larger version here. You may wonder which is the front and which is the back? Not sure it matters. In terms of the letterhead layout, I went with a bare bones approach. Logo, info and a cog graphic to tie everything in.
If you’re going to send out a lot of multi-paged documents, It’s always a good idea to have a second letterhead page. Generally speaking, these are pared down versions of your primary letterhead and only feature your logo or related graphic. At The Logo Factory we send out 4 and 5 page copyright transfer documents for every logo design project, so we go through a lot more second letterhead pages than originals. Rather than the expense of a two-color second page, I figured a one-color would do just as well. Minimalist is the order of the day, so I simply placed our cog ‘bug’ in the corner, mirroring the graphic from the primary letterhead design.
Trying to improve a logo is just one of those sensitive aspects of an organization. As you grow, the logo obviously becomes a major part of your brand and changing it around is a big subject of discussion. It’s clearly a long process and it’s hard to quit sometimes!
With that said, I think the purple works great and getting rid of the stars was a good idea! Good job!
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That was quite the interesting read! I have to say that I really like the new logo design. It pops. I wasn’t a fan of the stars… But I see that you have since removed them and it makes the logo stand out that much more to the eye.
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@ twitrounds Thanks – and yes, you’re right. Over the years our logo has been placed on a lot of marketing material and internal office paperwork. The logistics of changing a logo makes it something to contemplate long and hard before doing. Trouble is, we’ve never been terribly consistent in the deployment of our logo, so there are numerous versions and incarnations floating around. Clients and others probably wouldn’t notice, but it’s still annoying as hell.
@ Nicole! Wonderful to hear from you (Ed: Nicole was our studio admin couple of few years back). I’m glad you like the new logo – if there’s anyone who knows about The Logo Factory and whether it suits the shop’s personality it would be you. Thanks for dropping by and we miss you too (though Tasha is looking after us nicely). I believe some congratulations are in order – make sure to keep us posted on the big event!
Doh! Didn’t notice the house was trademarked.
I LOVE the wordmark in the cog, and the business card and letterhead concepts are spot-on. I love the energy of the gears going off the page. Myriad Pro is a nice update from Frutiger (though I’ll always love Frutiger too).
There are some awesome die possibilities in there for the future, too.
I must say, I am not a fan. There is so much going on, and little hierarchy to speak of.
What exactly is The Logo Factory? Is it quirky (as indicated by the illustration)? Is it industrial (the name)? Or is it a barbecue joint (the type lockup)?
There are some nice things happening in this logo, but they don’t agree with each other. I’d head back to the drawing board.
@ Amy – the factory illustration is part of our 2000 trademark filings. Unfortunately, without getting into a lot of legal expense, we’re stuck with it.
@ Rob – appreciate the comments. We’ve often been called “quirky” (or worse) but I tired to stay away from the “industrial” aspect, because despite the name, we’re not. As I mentioned in the blog post, we’re decidedly old school in many ways. I hadn’t considered the “barbecue joint” vibe created by the type, but now that you mention it…
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Don’t take this the wrong way, man: as I’ve said before, the work you guys do is awesome…. However, I’m gonna take a pass on the ‘Old West’ style font and its flourishes. To me, it doesn’t flow well with the look of the factory illustration. I know that you guys aren’t industrial, but I think another ‘old school’ font, with significantly less of the ‘old west’ vibe would be more suitable visually.
I know too, that historically speaking, that Boston font would have been the in thing when the factory set-up/the industrial age was being established in North America. I think though, that a font style from later on, maybe, nearer the end of the, ahem, smokestack age, would be more apt.
Love the letterheads with the cog bugs and dude, how ’bout a cog business card? Explore the possibilities, I say.
I’ll be checking to see how the tweaking goes and plz remember your own advice: revisions are to be handled with the utmost care and keep it simple. I believe in your collective talent, skill and eye for what works.
Have fun!
@ Gerard. Thanks very much for the comments and worry not – no offense taken. Not entirely sold on the set-up myself. The more I look at the design, I like some of it, but you’re probably right – the font work isn’t there just yet.
Haven’t had time to revisit the project for a while, but we’ll probably have another go in the next week or so. We’ll post the work-in-progress as it develops further.
Update: Reworking our logo. Part two.
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