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	<title>Comments on: Kelowna logo design dust-up</title>
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	<description>The Art &#38; Business of Logo Design</description>
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		<title>By: Monte</title>
		<link>http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/index.php/kelowna-logo-design-dust-up/comment-page-1/#comment-198926</link>
		<dc:creator>Monte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 23:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was an interesting story but most of the reporting was inaccurate and people as seen above formed opinions based misinformation. Are the designs similar yes they are, given the millions of designs available on on the internet as was pointed out it can happen. The similar Logo was leaked by a competitor. It did not cost 80k and although the $10k figure for design was reported many times it is always ignored. The process also involved a variety of focus groups and interviews with over forty people and many workshops with City Council. It also included a detailed design standards guide for using the logo on everything from signs to T-Shirts. Now if you are prepared to do all of that for $3k make sure to call the City in a few years. In the end the City was tired of a fifteen year old logo that the original design was embarrassed about. They wanted a symbol of change and diversity. The focus groups thought it should also feature the sun which symbolizes energy and fun. Other then a few older people and people who general like to hate government it seems to be accepted and dare I say liked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was an interesting story but most of the reporting was inaccurate and people as seen above formed opinions based misinformation. Are the designs similar yes they are, given the millions of designs available on on the internet as was pointed out it can happen. The similar Logo was leaked by a competitor. It did not cost 80k and although the $10k figure for design was reported many times it is always ignored. The process also involved a variety of focus groups and interviews with over forty people and many workshops with City Council. It also included a detailed design standards guide for using the logo on everything from signs to T-Shirts. Now if you are prepared to do all of that for $3k make sure to call the City in a few years. In the end the City was tired of a fifteen year old logo that the original design was embarrassed about. They wanted a symbol of change and diversity. The focus groups thought it should also feature the sun which symbolizes energy and fun. Other then a few older people and people who general like to hate government it seems to be accepted and dare I say liked.</p>
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		<title>By: DPI Creative</title>
		<link>http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/index.php/kelowna-logo-design-dust-up/comment-page-1/#comment-198826</link>
		<dc:creator>DPI Creative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 02:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is quite the situation, did it ever get resolved? Never even heard of Splash design but now I know where all our city contracts go! This guy is charging $80k in town, wow time to make a sales call down to the City of Kelowna!

We could blow all those logos on their portfolio away for $3k as Castanet was on target about for identity branding. Another example of our tax payers dollars wasted!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is quite the situation, did it ever get resolved? Never even heard of Splash design but now I know where all our city contracts go! This guy is charging $80k in town, wow time to make a sales call down to the City of Kelowna!</p>
<p>We could blow all those logos on their portfolio away for $3k as Castanet was on target about for identity branding. Another example of our tax payers dollars wasted!</p>
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		<title>By: Logon</title>
		<link>http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/index.php/kelowna-logo-design-dust-up/comment-page-1/#comment-195191</link>
		<dc:creator>Logon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 12:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.. This is sad..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.. This is sad..</p>
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		<title>By: Kelowna classifieds</title>
		<link>http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/index.php/kelowna-logo-design-dust-up/comment-page-1/#comment-195190</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelowna classifieds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most likely situation is that he saw the logo somewhere and it persisted in the back of his head until he did the design.  $80k though, really?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most likely situation is that he saw the logo somewhere and it persisted in the back of his head until he did the design.  $80k though, really?</p>
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		<title>By: Kelowna classifieds</title>
		<link>http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/index.php/kelowna-logo-design-dust-up/comment-page-1/#comment-195189</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelowna classifieds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most likely situation is that he saw the logo somewhere and it persisted in the back of his head when he went to design the new one.  The better question is WTF Kelowna is doing paying $80k for this...many many many designers I know would go through dozens if not hundreds of iterations for even $3k.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most likely situation is that he saw the logo somewhere and it persisted in the back of his head when he went to design the new one.  The better question is WTF Kelowna is doing paying $80k for this&#8230;many many many designers I know would go through dozens if not hundreds of iterations for even $3k.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/index.php/kelowna-logo-design-dust-up/comment-page-1/#comment-195047</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who cares? Both logos suck. They are complicated. They look like crap, and they can&#039;t possibly reproduce well in news print and B/W. Fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares? Both logos suck. They are complicated. They look like crap, and they can&#8217;t possibly reproduce well in news print and B/W. Fail.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
		<link>http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/index.php/kelowna-logo-design-dust-up/comment-page-1/#comment-194971</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly four circular rows of the exact same CMYI colour scheme. Sorry, but this is a blatant ripoff. All he has done is reversed the direction of the triangles. A coincidence of this magnetude is about as rare as winning the lottery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly four circular rows of the exact same CMYI colour scheme. Sorry, but this is a blatant ripoff. All he has done is reversed the direction of the triangles. A coincidence of this magnetude is about as rare as winning the lottery.</p>
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		<title>By: UK Logo Design</title>
		<link>http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/index.php/kelowna-logo-design-dust-up/comment-page-1/#comment-194468</link>
		<dc:creator>UK Logo Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 22:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Devil&#039;s advocate here; Bruce - if not deliberate, how *should* he have known about it?  Is there a reference guide, book or repository (let alone a website) that lists and displays all the world&#039;s tens of MILLIONS of logos?

No.

It&#039;s happened just once to me in eight years and it damn near scared the crap out of me.  But what can you do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Devil&#8217;s advocate here; Bruce &#8211; if not deliberate, how *should* he have known about it?  Is there a reference guide, book or repository (let alone a website) that lists and displays all the world&#8217;s tens of MILLIONS of logos?</p>
<p>No.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s happened just once to me in eight years and it damn near scared the crap out of me.  But what can you do?</p>
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		<title>By: Daryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 22:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a case of plagiarism, whether conscious or subconscious on the part
of the designer. The similarity in shape and overall design could be coincidental. Sure.
The designer explained that his inspiration was a pine cone. There&#039;s probably a hundred
other logos with similar shapes and structures out there in the world. All inspired by pine cones.
However, it is the nearly identical colour treatment (both colour palette and where
the colours are applied) that gives this designer&#039;s theft away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a case of plagiarism, whether conscious or subconscious on the part<br />
of the designer. The similarity in shape and overall design could be coincidental. Sure.<br />
The designer explained that his inspiration was a pine cone. There&#8217;s probably a hundred<br />
other logos with similar shapes and structures out there in the world. All inspired by pine cones.<br />
However, it is the nearly identical colour treatment (both colour palette and where<br />
the colours are applied) that gives this designer&#8217;s theft away.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Logos</title>
		<link>http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/index.php/kelowna-logo-design-dust-up/comment-page-1/#comment-194417</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Logos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a similar logo design and the logo designer should know about it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a similar logo design and the logo designer should know about it</p>
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