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	<title>Comments on: Design contest war breaks out.</title>
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	<description>The Art &#38; Business of Logo Design</description>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/index.php/design-contest-war-breaks-out/comment-page-1/#comment-101501</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a shame really, as it negatively impacts on the professional image of No-Spec and their supporters. It does, I suppose, highlight some of the inherent flaws in design contests - namely that there is no level of quality control over who is submitting designs. The action might have been more successful if the spammee had been a bit more creative and used something other than the No-spec logo.

eg.
Different logo designs with no-spec subtly worked into it to subtly promote the no-spec campaign (bonus irony points for each logo actually used by a client)

Just the same generic logo entered multiple times into every competition with superficial changes such as colours etc. to highlight the fact that most of the logos are recycled and the designers often provide little or no artistic input as part of their service, relying on the client to act as artistic director

Or perhaps even just something ridiculously obvious like submitting famous logos such as McDs, IBM, UPS etc. to highlight the rampant logo-stealing that many of the &#039;designers&#039; engage in.


Personally though, I think it&#039;s possibly better to simply not engage with the design competition sites at all. I&#039;m not sure any good can really come from interacting directly with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a shame really, as it negatively impacts on the professional image of No-Spec and their supporters. It does, I suppose, highlight some of the inherent flaws in design contests &#8211; namely that there is no level of quality control over who is submitting designs. The action might have been more successful if the spammee had been a bit more creative and used something other than the No-spec logo.</p>
<p>eg.<br />
Different logo designs with no-spec subtly worked into it to subtly promote the no-spec campaign (bonus irony points for each logo actually used by a client)</p>
<p>Just the same generic logo entered multiple times into every competition with superficial changes such as colours etc. to highlight the fact that most of the logos are recycled and the designers often provide little or no artistic input as part of their service, relying on the client to act as artistic director</p>
<p>Or perhaps even just something ridiculously obvious like submitting famous logos such as McDs, IBM, UPS etc. to highlight the rampant logo-stealing that many of the &#8216;designers&#8217; engage in.</p>
<p>Personally though, I think it&#8217;s possibly better to simply not engage with the design competition sites at all. I&#8217;m not sure any good can really come from interacting directly with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Douglas</title>
		<link>http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/index.php/design-contest-war-breaks-out/comment-page-1/#comment-101439</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave

Welcome as always.

Cat!

Nice of you to drop by. Probably some over-zealous designer thinking they&#039;re helping the cause. Must admit, if I were a little younger, and as idealistic as I used to be back then, I might be tempted to get a little more involved than writing the occasional blog post. While I&#039;m probably a little biased, not even sure if it&#039;s &#039;spamming&#039; or a legitimate form of protest, not unlike placards and signs used in more traditional venues.

Thanks for linking to the Protocols page - should clear a few things up for anyone who&#039;s reading. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave</p>
<p>Welcome as always.</p>
<p>Cat!</p>
<p>Nice of you to drop by. Probably some over-zealous designer thinking they&#8217;re helping the cause. Must admit, if I were a little younger, and as idealistic as I used to be back then, I might be tempted to get a little more involved than writing the occasional blog post. While I&#8217;m probably a little biased, not even sure if it&#8217;s &#8216;spamming&#8217; or a legitimate form of protest, not unlike placards and signs used in more traditional venues.</p>
<p>Thanks for linking to the Protocols page &#8211; should clear a few things up for anyone who&#8217;s reading.</p>
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		<title>By: cat</title>
		<link>http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/index.php/design-contest-war-breaks-out/comment-page-1/#comment-101431</link>
		<dc:creator>cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Steve, you are right. We do NOT condone spamming.

And if both sides would just read the no-spec.com site, they&#039;ll see that it&#039;s so.

It&#039;s linked right on the home page actually --&gt;&gt; What you can do: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.no-spec.com/what-you-can-do/nospec-protocol/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Read NO!SPEC&#039;s Protocols&lt;/a&gt;

And while our supporters believe they are doing a good thing by spamming, I have to put up with all the cacca emails of protest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steve, you are right. We do NOT condone spamming.</p>
<p>And if both sides would just read the no-spec.com site, they&#8217;ll see that it&#8217;s so.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s linked right on the home page actually &#8211;&gt;&gt; What you can do: <a href="http://www.no-spec.com/what-you-can-do/nospec-protocol/" rel="nofollow">Read NO!SPEC&#8217;s Protocols</a></p>
<p>And while our supporters believe they are doing a good thing by spamming, I have to put up with all the cacca emails of protest.</p>
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		<title>By: David Airey</title>
		<link>http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/index.php/design-contest-war-breaks-out/comment-page-1/#comment-101342</link>
		<dc:creator>David Airey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not surprising really, but thanks for the sign-post, Steve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not surprising really, but thanks for the sign-post, Steve.</p>
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