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Mar
25

Dear Sam. An open letter about copying logos

Steve Douglas on March 25th, 2010

Original pizza logo
Sam, I’d probably like you if we met over beers, or perhaps a plate of chicken wings at your pizza parlor. Could even make the trip too, as your town is only a few hours from our studio. Alas Sam, our friendship never had much of a chance, and it’s highly unlikely that we’ll ever break bread now. You see Sam, like you, we run a small business. It’s sometimes a struggle making ends meet, covering payroll, paying our bills, keeping our software and hardware up to date. We don’t make a lot of profit, but we keep at it, mostly because we love what we do. Designing logos. Just like you probably love what you do. Making pizza and chicken wings. Taking as much pride in your craft, as we do in ours.
Part of our logo portfolio
In these tough economic times, it’s sometimes difficult getting people to fork out for their logo design, just as I’m sure it is getting people to fork out for their pizzas, beers, wings and that delicious home-made bread you talk about so enthusiastically on your website. If ever we’re down around your neck of the woods, we might have stopped by and sampled some of your fares. I’m a big fan of chicken wings (if my waistline is any indication, perhaps too much) and love washing them down which a pitcher of draught. We’d probably have given the server who looked after us a healthy tip, cause we’re like that. We get it. Some of our designers have worked as waiters. My wife worked at one of those pizza chains when she was a teenager, so we understand that tips are really important. It might have been cool, Sam. But that was before you pinched some artwork off the internet. Our work. And tried to turn it into your logo.


Pizza logo copy
I understand how this happened Sam. That logo is in the number one or two spot when you search for the keywords pizza and logo on Google. Does pretty well for “pizzeria logo” too. Bottom line, it’s a decent design and it’s really easy to find. That didn’t happen by accident Sam. Far from it. We had to write some nice copy about pizza logos and feature some examples from our portfolio on one of our web pages. We even gave some tips on how to design a pizzeria logo. Hopefully, people who were looking for design firms, especially those that were good at designing pizza logos, might find our site when using their favorite search engine. Maybe even hire us to design a logo for their restaurant. And if they wanted to try designing one themselves, we gave a few tips that might help.
Pizza logo web page
Here’s the thing Sam. Our portfolio and website is our advertising, very similar to the website you’re building for your pizza parlor. And like the mailers you send to people in your neighborhood, hoping that they’ll order pizza and wings by phone. Or visit your fine establishment when they want to dine out. Trouble is Sam, when you wanted to add a logo to your website and mailers, you decided to nick the design you liked so much right off our website. You, or some designer you hired, took the image, removed the name of the client we originally designed the logo for, and put in your restaurant’s name. Pretty badly too Sam, because this design wasn’t built for the name of your restaurant, it was built for the original client’s name. But that’s neither here nor there. This letter isn’t about good or bad logo design. It’s about intellectual property.
pizza brochure
See Sam, I didn’t think I’d have to tell you this. I thought you’d understand, being a small business owner like myself, that our companies represent a way of making a living to the people who work for us. Our designers and admin staff. Just like your servers and chefs. Our logos and design work are just like your pizza and chicken wings Sam. You know, product. The things we sell to keep the lights on, the doors open and the paychecks signed. Or in your case, the doors to your pizza pub restaurant open, your wait staff smiling and your pizza ovens nice and hot.

Maybe we’re too expensive for your budget Sam, and that’s okay. Just like your pizza may be more expensive than the Domino’s and Pizza Pizza chains across the street from your shop. You’ll tell your customers that your pizzas and wings are more expensive because they’re better than those other guys. Better, fresher ingredients. Home made pie crust. Hand mixed sauces. That’s kind of our position on our pricing too, Sam. We Breaded Shrimponly present custom work, no templates or clip art here, and we have to price our design services in order to maintain that level of quality. We try to have great customer service and warm, knowledgeable bodies answering phones when clients need help with their logos. There are cheaper solutions to be sure, and you’re welcome to use those guys too. Free market and all that. Just like the people in your area are welcome to buy their wings and pizzas from those large chains that don’t take as much pride in their menu items as you do. You have breaded shrimps too? That’s awesome.

But here’s the thing Sam. When you decided that we were too rich for your tastes, or your budget, you didn’t go to the other, cheaper guys. You just took our artwork, property that belongs to someone else, and made it yours. You didn’t pay for it. You didn’t even ask. It would be like me breaking into your restaurant and taking your pizza (I’m partial to pepperoni, mushroom and pineapple) without asking you, because I thought you were charging too much. Or taking your pepperoni, mushrooms, pineapples and home made pie dough, right out of your fridge, so that I could try and make my own pizza. Pizza that, hopefully, would taste just like yours. You might think artwork on the internet is different Sam, but it’s not really. You’re taking something that doesn’t belong to you. And using it for your own benefit. Without asking the rightful owner, or the creator, if they’re okay with you using it.
pizzeria website
Judging by the way your website is set up (5.7 MBs for your about page is a bit heavy Sam) you may be new to the internet and not know this. While it’s cool to find all sorts of stuff, logo design examples let’s say, the internet is also a weird place. A very weird place indeed. I’ve never heard of your pizza parlor, nor did I know about your new website. Trouble is, someone from your neighborhood, perhaps even a customer of yours, knows about us. They seem to be quite familiar with our site too, being able to find a very old contact form that’s not easy to find on our new site. I think they might be a graphic designer Sam, because they were really, really unhappy to see our client’s logo being used to promote your restaurant. So unhappy that they took some time out of their busy day to tell us. And just like you used the internet search machine to find examples of pizza logos, we used the internet search machine to find you. Now, whether you really want to or not, you’re going to have to have a new logo designed. You won’t hire us because after all this, you probably think I’m not a very nice person. That bad blood is sad really, because we didn’t do anything wrong. Other than advertise our services on the internet. Just like you advertise your pizzas and wings on the internet. But you’re going to have to hire somebody I suppose. Here’s a few tips on selecting a logo designer. And if you’ve printed our work on business cards, letterheads or heaven forbid, your menus, it’s going to cost a lot more than the couple of hundred bucks you saved by not hiring us. The sad footnote to this is that you’ve probably lost a customer too. Remember the designer that told us about this little incident? Apparently, they don’t want to support a business that appears to think so little about theirs. The big chains across the street are cheaper too.
Misc pizzeria ads, banners & sell sheets
I want to keep this quiet Sam, because I’m sure you’re a nice guy who may not have understood that this kind of thing is wrong. Many people seem to think that once something is on the internet, it’s available for use by anyone. It isn’t. There’s this little wrinkle to that called copyright. Trademark works too. Some may feel that pinching artwork off the internet is just like downloading MP3s or movies via a file-sharing network. It’s not. MP3s and bootleg movies are downloaded into a private stash on a hard drive that no-one else sees. While it’s still very illegal, it’s highly unlikely they’ll ever get caught. By their nature, logos are very, very public. That’s the point in the first place. And when you use a logo how it’s supposed to be used, plastered over your advertising, you run a very real risk of the owner finding out. In many different and wondrous ways. If they don’t find it themselves, it could come down to some graphic designer who reads a website, or a logo design blog like this one, dropping into your shop for an undoubtedly wonderful slice of pizza. And then half the internet will be raging about yet another example of someone knocking off someone else’s design work. Funny thing, I wrote about that kind of thing just a few days ago. They’re called Twitter Storms and they can get really, really nasty. That won’t happen this time Sam, because I’ve gone to extraordinary lengths to make sure the search engine machines don’t connect this post with your restaurant. See, I just wanted you to stop using our work. And to leave our client’s logo alone. And who knows. Maybe if the Mrs. and I ever plan a road trip down your way, we’ll drop in for a slice or two. Or maybe some of those lovely looking shrimps.

The preceding was based on an actual event. Sam is not the actual name of the restaurant owner addressed. So it doesn’t get picked up by search engines, we’ve left the name of his restaurant out of the article too. Also should mention that after being contacted, the logo was removed from Sam’s website.

 

 

 

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14 Comments to “Dear Sam. An open letter about copying logos”

  1. rafael armstrong says:
    March 25, 2010 at 11:24 am

    Steve,
    I commend you once again on a very level-headed explanation on the reasons behind, and the (likely) backlash, of copying stuff– in this case a logo– off the web. This open letter could have easily devolved into a hate-filled rant on a number of subjects. It speaks volumes of you as a professional that you are able to do this in a pretty objective manner.

    Sadly, the only real “winner” here is the designer– if one can call him/her that– who did this. They probably got paid and have since moved on to other clients, I’m sure. Who knows how many other times s/he pulled this same stunt.

    Thanks for giving us this cautionary tale, even though it’s unfortunate it had to happen in the first place.

    Reply
    • Steve Douglas says:
      March 25, 2010 at 11:46 am

      Thanks Rafael. I appreciate the kind words. I thought that we’d all be better served if I presented this incident with velvet gloves rather than going all Maxwell’s Silver Hammer (vague Beatles reference) on poor old ‘Sam’. I was trying to figure out why people might do this kind of stuff, and realized that many small business owners might not even realize that copying logos off the internet is ‘taboo’.

      Reply
  2. awebjam says:
    March 25, 2010 at 2:13 pm

    Hi Steve,

    This is such a sad story and I love the fact that you explained in great detail how inappropriate it was to use that logo. I am most impressed with the fact that you took great measures in not naming the offender in the article. I did search for this offender and it took me a few minutes to find their site.

    All I can say is their site is a tragic eye sore. I believe my 4 year old could have done better. Not only would I have been upset to have my worked hijacked, but to be used on a site that bad would have made it ten times worse.

    PS your logo is still plastered on the shrimp picture on their site

    best of luck
    James

    Reply
    • rafael armstrong says:
      March 25, 2010 at 4:57 pm

      I agree with @awebjam. I looked up the site as well, and to me it felt unpolished. If I were a betting man, I’d say the same person took the same amount of care in the web dev as they did in the logo research & design.
      That being said, I don’t think it might have been Sam’s fault. He;’s just a small business owner, probably had a relatively small budget for these projects, and the designer figured he’d cut corners.
      Growing up I remember Lestoil (the cleaner) ran a commercial in Puerto Rico with the tagline “lo barato sale caro” (the cheap stuff ends up being expensive). The way this story will inevitably end more than proves that point.

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    • Steve Douglas says:
      March 26, 2010 at 10:55 am

      Hey James. Yeah, I noticed that too (the shrimp photo). Trouble is, that photo looks like it’s from a menu, some sort of ad, or maybe even a light box. If so, it could get very expensive replacing this material.

      @ Rafael I like the sentiment of your quote “The cheap stuff ends up being expensive”. Often very true.

      Reply
  3. Mike Erickson says:
    March 25, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    Great article, One would think ‘Sam’ would learn? Guess we need to keep bringing it to his attention.

    Reply
  4. Ross Kimbarovsky says:
    March 26, 2010 at 12:15 am

    Steve – you had me at “chicken wings”. Nicely written and argued.

    Reply
    • Steve Douglas says:
      March 26, 2010 at 9:50 am

      @ Mike. I certainly hope Sam sees the light. Like your new site by the way. Nicely done.

      @ Ross. Heh. Perhaps bacon-wrapped chicken wings? Thanks for dropping by and thanks, once again, for dinner in Chicago.

      Reply
  5. Robin says:
    March 27, 2010 at 10:58 am

    Nice article! I’m curious as to whether “Sam” acknowledged how your logo ended up on his site (was he taken advantage of by an unethical designer or did he have his nephew who know how to use Photoshop do it for him) or did he just remove it from his site? There’s something in me that wants people like this to repent and not just slink away.

    Reply
    • Steve Douglas says:
      April 14, 2010 at 10:24 am

      Alas, Sam ignored our e-mails. It wasn’t until we made a ‘friendly’ phone call did anything happen. As to who did what, I have no idea. Like you, I dig the ‘avenging angel’ vibe, but at the end of the day, the main point is to get the copied work down. In this instance, Sam was pretty co-operative so other than the original copying, I have no beef. Other times, it isn’t quite so easy.

      Reply
  6. Anthony says:
    April 3, 2010 at 8:47 am

    I wonder if the owner is a native of San Francisco. I cannot think of any other reason as to why the Golden Gate bridge would be depicted in the logo. Unfortunately, this is not the first article about this and it will not be the last.

    I only hope the idea came from within the family or was an idea of Sam’s — a very foolish one indeed — and Sam’s idea was backed up by a designer saying something along the lines of “Don’t worry. You are protected under law if I change at least 10% of the design. Now the current name takes up about 23% of the logo so simply adding your company change will be enough of a ‘tweak’ for you to claim this as your own.”

    Regardless, this was an insightful read and definitely has value, so I don’t know if I would label it as a rambling. :) For the sake of not narrowing this down to logos, I will say that graphic design has a special place in many people’s heart and life. In all the areas we can see threats creeping up on things we love, and we cannot afford to be indifferent or quiet. “Where will this lead?” is a question we should ask ourselves when we see something like this occure. Granted, there will be [many] times where we have little to no effect on the outcome, but we can at least remove ourselves from the group of people who, by failing to act, have complicitly played a role in the situation.

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    • Steve Douglas says:
      April 14, 2010 at 10:26 am

      @ Anthony How ‘appropriate’ the Golden Gate bridge to Sam’s ‘brand’ had us scratching our heads too. I think this was just a matter of finding the logo on Google, it had to do with pizza and overall, it looked pretty cool.

      Reply
  7. Kevin says:
    April 7, 2010 at 12:54 pm

    Hi Steve,
    You should create a new service and site and call it: therantfactory.com. Then, as a service, you can ‘professionally’ rant on behalf of the client. haha.

    This article was very well written and I’m glad to hear that ‘Sam’ took the logo down. As a new, beginning photographer, intellectual property becomes a very big issue as you show/share your portfolio on the internet. Thank you for the great information and perspective that you presented in this article. Keep up the great work. I love your website and the creativity of you and your staff. I actually tell business owners and start ups about your site all the time. Cheers.

    Reply
    • Steve Douglas says:
      April 14, 2010 at 10:28 am

      @ Kevin LOL at ‘The Rant Factory’. Sadly, this happens so often that it would be possible. Good luck with your photography. Used to be a shooter myself (in a previous life) and have a great deal of respect for anyone that tries to make a living at the craft.

      Reply

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